Making Millions? Cool. Keeping Them? Blake Harris Has the Playbook

And I realized making money is not just half the battle. It’s protecting it. Yes. That’s the real key. Actually. Nobody really wants an offshore trust. I have one. I don’t want the offshore trust. I want the benefit of the offshore trust. Yeah. Which is protection, but it’s also peace of mind. The biggest point there is.

You can’t become great at anything unless you do it enough times. An offshore trust is an excellent tool for protection from lawsuits and divorce. It does not do anything in terms of taxes. It’s actually a tax neutral structure. What ends up happening is people pay these settlement and they become victims of legal extortion.

There are thousands of lawsuits filed every single day. There’s over 10 million lawsuits filed every single year. There are billions of dollars ordered to decay out in judgments every few days. The reality is that I think that every small to midsize business owner who’s put their blood, sweat, and tears into building a family business should consider it.

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It’s certainly not about this baldheaded nut, it’s about the guests that come on the show and today we’ve got a powerhouse. Yes, we have attorney Blake Harris. He is the managing director of the world’s largest exclusively offshore asset protection law firm. He’s got 250,000 followers on TikTok. He’s a speaker.

He is an author. He’s outta Miami. By way of Denver, by way of New York, Dubai, 40 countries. You gotta check him out on LinkedIn, TikTok, Instagram, and you could certainly read about him in Forbes, MarketWatch, and more. So Blake, you know, you’ve been a little bit busy. Welcome to the show. Thank you, John. Yes, I have been a little bit busy, but having a good time.

And let’s, let’s dig in. I gotta tell you, Blake, um, as I, as I mentioned before we started, um, I kind of have to bring this up because I had, um. Oh boy. Like the fifth guest I had on was absolutely dressed to the nines. Then somebody else came on and blew them out of the water. You now have the award for the coolest jacket.

Where’s the jacket from? Let’s start with that. I picked this up on the streets of Miami Beach a few months ago. It called me and it just felt right. But uh, for how loud and memorable the jacket is. I think the podcast and what’s gonna come outta my mouth might be even be more memorable. I love it. You were, uh, you were on another podcast.

I saw I’ve, I’ve been watching your content clips. If you think that you have a stalker, that would be me. I’ve been scrolling through all of your content, pretty fun stuff. So, uh, give us a little bit of a background. We like to start out always with a little bit of an origin story, like. You know, as a kid I wanted to be a baseball player.

I’m certainly, uh, that when you were a child you probably, uh, were watching a lot of Matlock. Right. And you wanted to be an attorney, huh? I knew what I wanted to be when I was a child. No kidding. Yeah. Alright, that’s cool, rich. There you go. And, uh, and, and I came up with a plan. The, the first time I got my hands on some money was when I was in kindergarten.

Each day before school, our parents were supposed to give us a dollar and then we’d take that dollar and buy lunch. I realized that if we had forgotten our dollar, they would still feed us. We were just six years old. And after forgetting my dollar every day for about a month, the school contacted my parents and parents said, whatcha are talking about?

We have been sending Blake with a dollar. So the school did what I considered to be a completely illegal and inappropriate search and seizure of my cubby, and found the stacks of cash that I had accumulated. And at that moment I realized making money. Is that just half the battle? It’s protecting it. Yes.

That’s the real key. And that really might’ve been what inspired me to end up where I am here today. That’s pretty cool. So you were, you were flashing, you were flashing the cache, but in order to protect it, you really couldn’t be shown it too much. Yeah. You kinda had a i I, I was, I wasn’t even flashing it, I was just storing the back of the cubby.

Yeah. So it was an offshore locker. So, no, it was a domestic. It was a domestic lot locker, which is why a baddest stay the heck away from any domestic asset protection strategies. That’s the mistake is that you had, it’s the mistake in state, right? Exactly. Exactly. There’s always savings, but it’s about way more than savings alone.

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So, um, what was childhood like? Um, as, as far as like your upbringing and, and how you kind of, how were you mentored, if you will? How were you raised? So, I am very blessed with the childhood that I had. I had a father who was an attorney as well. Completely different type of law, but I watched as he grew his practice and Watts as he marketed that practice.

And he was very aggressive about that. Um, he was also one who, although financially we were comfortable, he did not give us a luxurious, or I wouldn’t say an easy life. He had a lot of adversity that he put on us than working in his business, working outside of his business, various different projects. And so I really was blessed in the sense that I did grow up around wealth and could learn to speak the language of the wealthy, but I grew up with a work ethic and a mentality of somebody who was.

Ray’s very poor and had to struggle through a lot of things on their own and instilled entrepreneurship in me from a very young age. I had started some businesses back when I was in high school, and then the counter to that was having a mother who absolutely had the heart of gold. Yeah. So a father who was very tough on us, a mother who’s very loving for us and enough that we felt loved, but also felt pushed to grow.

And I couldn’t be more thankful for my childhood and my parents. The yin yang, good cop, bad cop kind of methodology. I love that. Yeah. Uh, yeah. I had a similar thing. It was a lot of, uh, wooden spoon threats, but never used. Never used. Just the threats of wait till dad gets home. Right. You know, that’s my theory with my own own children.

I don’t believe their father needs to beat the children, but I think the children need to be afraid of that. It needs to be a threat. I think the fear of your father, the fear of God is a very healthy, good thing for most people. Yeah. I, uh, I have a saying in my house that, uh, I. The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Yep. So, um, so you, you talked about the fundamentals that maybe your dad instilled in you, of, you know, you gotta work hard. So he didn’t just give it to you, he made you work hard for it. Like, what were some of those fundamentals and, and that you can remember back? ’cause I think oftentimes we look back and we go, oh, that’s what he meant by that.

And then we apply that or we teach other people that. What are some of the fundamentals that you were taught that you apply now? Well, just even in once I started my business over 10 years ago, there were times when money got tight and I got nervous and I was reminded that, uh, you wanna come home, we’ve got a place for you to stay.

We’ve got food for you, but we’re not funding the lifestyle of an adults. And if you want to build your own business, you’re going to build it on your own. And when I started my business, I was out in Colorado where I hadn’t grown up or I hadn’t gone to school where I really didn’t know anybody. But because of that, each time I was able to get a client, I treated that.

Client like they were gold. It just gave them the best possible experience and that was the model that we still use 10 years later. Having serviced a thousand plus clients, we still treat each one like they’re our own very special clients. So it’s really great learning the value of a client, learning the value of a dollar and appreciating each one.

Yeah, for sure. What, what do you think are some of the keys to building out that, that kind of brand model? You know, obviously you talked about, I love that you said you talked about creating an experience. ’cause for me, like that’s the whole thing. You have to create a brand experience. Like what are kind of your fundamentals there to building that out as it relates to a law practice?

So there’s a few principles, but. Well, my firm, we set up a lot of offshore trust over the past few years, probably set up more offshore trust than any other law firm in the world. Um, clients are not coming to us because they want an offshore trust. Actually, nobody really wants an offshore trust. I have one.

I don’t want the offshore trust. I want the benefit of the offshore trust. Yeah. Which is protection, but it’s also peace of mind and that is what we are communicating to clients. Every step of the process. From the first time that they come across me on some podcasts on first time they find me on social media, I want them to hear me speak with confidence.

And then when they contact our law firm, they visit our website. It is very professional. It’s very comprehensive. It’s probably the single best place on the entire internet for information on offshore asset protection. Once they contact us, they get a response very quickly and very soon thereafter, they’re speaking with one of the attorneys at our firm who’s going to qualify to see if they would be a good fit for setting up an offshore structure.

And then the process from there continues to be very smooth. So it’s very much about communicating peace of mind, and you do this throughout the entire process from the marketing to the sales step, to the, through the initial consultation, through the time that the life of a client. So it’s all about giving people the utmost peace of mind, not just that they are working with the right law firm, but their money’s protected, and that they’re going to be working with only the most reputable in the industry when they work with us.

So. IRS tax code. Yep. Um, what do they say? It’s like five times the size of the Bible or something like that. I mean, it’s like 80,000 words. Some crazy number. Is it designed, uh, to benefit those that understand it, or is it designed to. Penalize those that don’t, or both? Well, both. I mean, writing the rules is definitely in your favor.

Now, I do want to distinguish between what an offshore trust can do and what an offshore trust cannot do. Mm-hmm. An offshore trust is an excellent tool for protection from lawsuits and divorce. It does not do anything in terms of taxes. It’s actually a tax neutral structure. It does not increase your tax liability.

It does not decrease it. You do have to report to the IRS that you have an offshore trust, but they don’t penalize you. They don’t increase your chance of being audited because you have an offshore trust. And we give every one of our clients a detailed memorandum on how to complete those reporting requirements.

And if need be, we can refer ’em to a CPN or network who can help them complete the reporting requirement. Um, but to answer your question, yes, the tax code is a mess. And, um, when setting up. Structures, there are advantages and disadvantages to having complex structures. And S-Corp, for example, I understand is a lot less likely to be audited than an LLC, an offshore structure.

There’s not a lot of people at the IRS relatively speaking who are qualified to audit an offshore structure. So it’s important that it’s reported, but it does increase your chance of an audit. Okay, so you built this, uh, you started this 10 years ago. Uh. Walk us through, like, how, how did you retain your first client?

What was that like? So, so, so started at 2013, so a little bit over 10, 10 years ago. Um, I was out in Denver, Colorado where I really didn’t know anybody other than my wife and children and the firm that I had just left. I worked for another trust firm for a little while before starting my own own firm. Um, and I got on the internet and I just, uh, started building a website and running AdWords.

I think I was using a credit card and pulling myself into debt to try to get that first client for like SEO and um, well, SEI was working on S-E-O-S-E-O, but SEO takes can take a year or so before you start getting any, yeah. Any results. But if you grind with it long enough, you do get results. And Google advertising, Google advertising mm-hmm.

Moves you right to the very, to the very top. Top. And I remember one of my first clients who was actually a younger. Per person. And um, they came in, they hired me and I was like, all right, well there’s something here. And kinda like anything else, if the well is feeding you, you continue to go back to it.

And over time, what used to be my monthly budget for AdWord is now my daily budget for AdWords. Yeah. And it’s grown and it’s been a phenomenal experience watching a law firm. Well I wouldn’t say watching ’cause you’re actually building it, but building, building a law firm, I took some time off about six months ago.

I’d never really taken any time off of work. I’ve took an entire week off of work and really thought back and realized I’m very proud of what I’ve built. It’s taken some time. It’s caused me as an individual to very much change and develop and grow. I started a law firm and initially my job was to be the paralegal.

I mean, I was the finer, the minder, the grinder, all the entire soup to nuts. And then over time I was, I. Didn’t take too long. I was able to hire that first paralegal, which definitely freed me up to focus more on the sales side and the marketing side. And then over the past year, I built out quite a sales team and I’ve trained them on how to educate people on offshore trust.

And then with that I have then shifted my responsibilities more to marketing, going on podcast like this John, but also culture. And I’m very focused on building the right culture with my firm because that’s something that is very unique to us that nobody else can take away from us. And then also finding more outside providers, meeting with heads of banks and trust companies and seeing if we can get better service or better pricing for our clients.

So I’m always out there advocating on behalf of the law firm, on behalf of our clients. And we’ve got a great team, a team that I stand by a thousand percent that does everything from closes the initial business to taking care of clients throughout the process. I. That being said, I’m still available to my client.

If client to a letter to speak to me. I still will speak with them directly, but having a great team behind you is really a wonderful thing. Okay. So you hit on something that I’m really curious about because I, I, I love, I came from selling services consulting, not legal, but similar in that you’re selling a bit of, you know, concept, little bit of hopium, if you will.

Right. Um, here’s the challenge. It doesn’t have to be that way. Here’s some ideas. Get it to the expert, right? Yep. And so I’m really curious, uh, when you talk about the sales team and getting them trained, like. How are you doing this in this new world of social media? Are you putting a lot of time and emphasis into social selling?

Is it still ground and pound knocking on doors, making phone calls? Like what’s the metrics that you’re using for sales teams in a law practice? Okay, so well, two kind of different things there. And just a quick, uh, side note, hope I’m, I’m adding that to my Lux, isn’t that cool? Right. So in, in terms of, in terms of training the sales team, uh, my main partner.

Ollie, I had him come and basically, uh, follow me around for an entire month and we take calls from 9:00 AM eastern till till midnight. And he followed me around. And not only did he learn the business and what you need to say in order to close the client, but he also learned about how we do business.

And he tells the story about how one day I had him go to the gym with me, and then on the way home from the gym, it started raining. But a phone call came in and he saw me climb pretty much almost into a gutter to take a phone call. And he’s like, wow, that is real dedication. Yeah. And that is what we do for our clients at my firm.

And that is the mentality that, uh, he adopted because he saw that I adopted it as well. So the training, very much in person. We do virtual training as, as well. We run a virtual or a remote office where we have people in about five different countries across three or four different continents. And so we do lean into the.

Power of the internet and being able to work remotely. And that’s a wonderful thing. And I like that my team doesn’t have to waste time commuting, that they have the ability to relocate, that they can get to spend more time with their family. However. I’m a big believer in the in-person meeting and the power in-person connection, so we do that as well.

The team gets together a few times a year in various different locations and various different groups. Members of the team get together from time to time, so in the world of the interim net, we use the internet for training, but we also do a lot of in-person training as well. On the flip side of that, how is social media affecting the business?

Well, it’s very much affecting the business and it’s going to be affecting your business more and more the years to come. If you wanna be prepared for the future, you need to be on social media, and here’s something that it takes. To be successful on social media? Well, there’s a few things it takes, but number one, I believe is faith.

A belief that it’s going to come back to you when you first build that website. You’re not getting any SEO when you start your Instagram account and maybe you follow a few people, you, you know, and you start posting every single day and you’re wondering why you don’t get any leads. It’s because you haven’t done it long enough.

Mm-hmm. Partially, I mean, your content maybe needs to improve, but if you don’t start posting mediocre content today, you’re not going to learn from that mediocre. You never get the chops content and you’ve got to Exactly. You got to build that, build that skill. Your first video is not going to go vi viral.

Um, but you can very much build a law practice on social media. Mm-hmm. It takes time, it takes effort, and I think that social media presence is going to be a lot more, is going to perform a lot better if you’re also doing the in-person side of it. I find that people tend to market their business well, one of two ways, and allows you to be able to up two ways.

So there’s the. Digital side. There’s the, uh, making content and there’s the actually getting out there in person, going to conferences, meeting, meeting with people. And I find the people who are very comfortable at conferences are often camera shy, and I find a lot of people who are comfort on camera are afraid to, or, or like to hide behind the screen.

Yeah. There’s no edit button at the conference. If you want to be as successful as possible, as you darn well should, then you need to get comfortable doing both. I love that. I mean, it, it, the biggest point there is you, you can’t become great at anything unless you do it enough times. That you have enough failure, you know the adjustments, you start to find your lane.

You start to get comfortable. And especially with like creating content on video, you have to be able to see yourself and hear yourself. You start to see some idiosyncrasies that you have, you gotta know how to shore those up and kind of, uh, lean into the other ones. And it, it’s, it’s really one of those things where you almost have to put the content out for others to see it, but you also have to see it.

You have to, so you know how to make the changes. You have to see it, and it can be very humbling. But growing your own business comes with a lot of. Tough things such as being humble, such as worrying when cash flow slows down when you’ve invested heavy. It can also be very lonely. There’s 98 employees for every two employers.

That is made up statistic. But just, just, just saying that you’re not the norm by having your own business, but the freedom you get, the ability to grow to your true potential, not be held back by someone else is a wonderful thing. The second thing that you mentioned is culture, which I think that, you know, there’s some people who will hear that and roll their eyes and be like, all right, enough of company culture and this and that.

And then there’s other folks. I personally think that it’s really important, and when I say culture, I don’t mean the foosball tables and the ping pong tables. I mean, I mean a competitive culture, a culture of kindness, a culture of of encouragement, a culture of competition. Um. I, I think that that starts at the top.

It’s gotta bounce down at the bottom and it’s gotta roll all the way back up to the top. And it’s kind of like a, it’s gotta work in a circle. It’s a a, a living, breathing thing. So how do you kind of curate a culture? Uh, you know, they say in sports that, uh, really great teams kind of take on the personality of their coach.

Oh yeah. I think really great brands are the same way. They take on the personality of, of their leader. So how do you get your best attributes to kind of download into your team and be conscious of maybe some of the things that you’re not great at, and have others step up and do those. So John, it is important to understand that yes, the head of the company there.

Style is going to permeate throughout the entire company. That’s going to be the model for how everybody else behaves. However, the head of the company is very much shaped by having the right team. So if you have the right employee, they’re gonna make you a better leader. Mm. And if you’re a good leader, you’re gonna make them the a better employee.

So it does work both ways. There’s a few principles that we have at our firm that I talk about frequently to our team and speak about publicly as well. Above all it’s integrity. I wanna be able to sleep well at night. I, I’d like to make a buck, but I’m not compromising. I. Doing the right thing in my heart.

Under any circumstances, I don’t care if I ever make another dollar, I’m going to live a life where I feel I’m being honest and true to myself. And I want my whole team to have that philosophy as well. You can get ahead by cheating for a little while. Hmm, but in the long, but in the long run, it’s gonna hurt your business.

It’s gonna hurt, hurt your health, and it could kill you. Um, so number one, I talk about that and I talk about that, that often. Number two, professionalism. We, there’s not a more professional law firm out there. We are very responsive. We’re very professional in how we conduct ourself with clients. Number three, no bs.

And this is a very important thing because so many law firms were started a long time ago by attorneys who never left the 1980s who don’t understand. Basic social media. Mm-hmm. Who can’t even spell a i it’s unfortunate for, well, I guess it’s fortunate for us as a competitor to some of, oh yeah. To, to some of these other, to some of these other firms, but meetings that have no point, that waste other employees time is something that other employees dislike and it hurts the firm, firm culture.

We do have meetings, but they’re rare enough that our team, I think, actually looks forward to the occasional getting together, whether via Google meets call or an in-person meeting. And finally, um, I, I’m trying to sort out exactly how to put this, but somewhere between work should be fun or at least work.

Work shouldn’t suck. Yeah. We don’t tolerate any disrespect. Respect, certainly not within our, our team, but that’s, but that’s not really an issue because we’ve got the right team in place. And if there ever was someone who’s not right, being a business owner, it’s the least fun part about the job. But you’ve gotta fire someone sometimes.

Clients are the same. If a client’s having a bad day, we’ll be patient with, with them. We all have a bad day from time to time. However, if a client is routinely disrespectful, we’re gonna part ways with them. It’s my job to protect my team from disrespectful customers and I would basically be abusing my own employees if I was allowing an abusive mm-hmm.

Uh, client to to stay, to stay around. Yeah. So it’s a matter of leading with integrity, conducting yourself professionally, having fun and treating your team team well. And once you have that, once you’ve got the right culture, nobody can steal your business. Nobody can just go and copy what you’re doing.

I’ve got lots of people out there who copy my content. That’s okay. They can’t copy my culture. Uhhuh, that’s part of our DNA. Yeah. So do you find that, uh, your culture is now starting to kind of bleed out into the marketplace? You know, you feel it in the four walls of the building. You feel it on the Zoom calls.

You feel it in the, in the, the way that, uh, communication happens through emails and back and forth and, but are you starting to feel it kind of penetrate the market where companies and clients are saying, yeah, hey, by the way, Blake, the reason why we stick with you is because of how your cultures aligns with us.

We have been told, and I’ve heard this from people as far as with Switzerland, as far as with the South Pacific and the Cook Island, and, and it’s overly and it’s very apparent, we are the disruptor in the industry. I’ve been asked, how’d you get into this industry? Did you have family in this industry? No, I did not have family in this industry.

It took a lot of cold calling. It took a lot of partnering with other attorneys and agreeing to give them the majority of the fees. For the first very large number of clients that I brought in, it took travel. I’ve been to over 40 different countries at times. I’ve just walked into banks, walked into trust companies unannounced.

It really took quite a while to build out the network that we have and now where we sit with the nation’s largest exclusively asset protection law firm. According to chat GPT, I’m the number one asset protection attorney in the world. Um, we set the record for the most number of trust, Roger at a particular.

Trust company, the oldest trust company in the Cook Islands last LA last, last year. So we’re changing things up in the industry and we’ve got some big plans ahead for the coming years and how we’re going to continue to improve the industry. And other attorneys are looking at us as to how they are supposed to operate in this industry.

And I’m honored. Um, when I see someone else copying the content, I realize that’s just the highest form of flattery. Sure. When people are attending our CLEs and they reach out wanting to partner with us, we’re happy to do that. We partner with a lot of other attorneys who wanna provide this very technical niche area of the law to their customers.

Like you’re a Bolton. You know what’s really cool is, um, you can’t pay off chat GTP to say that. Um, I, you can’t bribe them. I, um, yeah. I, I, I didn’t even, I, I, I had, I, I, I had, I hadn’t even thought of that. Yeah. Um, like you can, you could do SEO, you could do pay per Click and Google Analytics, and you could, you could buy most, being number one on a page can be bought.

Yeah. But, um, no. Yeah. Chat. G PT doesn’t have a pay to play. Yeah. Either you’re saying it enough through your social media and enough other people are saying it, that they’re grabbing onto it. Uh, or, you know, or it’s just accurate, John, or it’s just you. Accurate. Let’s go. All right. Even better. Boom. Let’s drop the hammer on that one.

Fair enough. Okay. So, um, give us an idea, like, it’s a pretty cool look for you. Law’s cool for an outsider, right. Law law’s more of like a, it’s kind of a scary thing, but, um. It’s how you make your living. It’s how you’ve built your culture, it’s how you support families. Um, it’s how you protect your, your customers.

So I’m just curious, like give us some cool stories of, you know, maybe some uh, some elite clients that you’ve just done some really amazing stuff and just shocked the world and blew their head off and they just couldn’t believe how much value you created for them. Alright, well they do need to correct one thing.

The law is not particularly cool. Yeah. The way I do it is freaking cool, but, but, um, I mean, I very much enjoy what I do. I’m passionate about it. I believe in it. Uh, freedom does not exist without protection. That’s what we do. We protect people so that they can have the freedom to enjoy their life and enjoy their retirement and provide it for their family as they, as they wish, and as they see fit.

In terms of your question, repeat it one more time. Yeah. So I’m just curious, like, give us a cool story. Oh, cool story, like a cool story, like a high profile client that, you know, maybe was skeptical and now they’re like, oh my god, Blake, I can’t believe you pulled this off, kind of a thing. So at this point, a little bit over five years.

Somewhere five to 10 years ago was contacted by an individual who had a trucking company. He built it from scratch o over the past 20 years, he found a buyer for the company. They agreed to purchase the company for $12 million. He hired me, set up a Cook Islands trust, new owner takes over and does not understand the business as well as my client who built the business from scratch.

Mm-hmm. And the business. So common tanking. Yeah. And instead of taking responsibility for the business failing, he claims that the sale failed to disclose material information and try to undo the transaction entirely, which was going to leave my client in debt because my client had already shared a portion of the, that $12 million with the IRS.

Mm-hmm. Fortunately because the client had established the Cook Islands Trust, he was able to negotiate and ultimately settled for somewhere around $150,000 pennies on the dollar. I dunno how things would’ve turned out if he did not have the Cook Islands trust, but I think it’s safe to say that it turned out much better than it would’ve been had the trust never been established.

And then I. During this time, the cl or sometime thereafter the client died. The client’s son called me and I remember his words, Blake, the trust word exactly as you said it would. That’s awesome. And that is something that, that’s it’s gotta light you up. Oh yeah. Totally. Knowing that, um, you’re able to help people and deliver on your promises and, and protect a family legacy and, and, and protect retirement.

’cause at this point, the client’s wife was past the age of working. Yeah. And, um, I don’t know what a retirement would look like without the money, but it, it’s gonna be much better with it. So there’s probably business owners out there that, you know, are within 10 years of exit Right. And built up and accumulated some wealth and assets.

They’re still in the business running and operating it, so they’re not at the point where they could just, you know, put a valuation on it and call it a day. They still have some work to do. Mm-hmm. Um. But, uh, if you look at some of the stats, like so many companies don’t have a succession estate plan. They don’t have a trust, they don’t have a will.

Um, you know, they’re profitable, but they’re kind of operating off of cash flow. Mm-hmm. They’re paying a lot in taxes. Like, there’s, there’s a lot of small businesses out there that are, are doing unbelievable work, but. The system just breaks them, and even though they’re doing amazing work, they really don’t reap the benefits of it, like somebody who has all the boxes checked.

So talk to them a little bit about what they should be doing. Well, let’s talk about our current legal system. If you want to sue somebody, you don’t have to post any money up front. You can take it on a contingency fee. Here in the United States, there’s lots of attorneys who are advertising. So even if you don’t have a reason to sue, attorneys can often suggest one for you.

Once you start a case, you can amend it and change the reason you’re su suing. That’s crazy. And eventually P um, excuse me. Eventually, defendants realize this case is so annoying to defend. I’d rather just pay a settlement and be done with it. Even though it’s a completely meritless case. What ends up happening is people pay these settlements and they become victims of legal extortion.

There are. Thousands of lawsuits filed every single day. There’s over 10 million lawsuits filed every single year. There are billions of dollars order to be paid out in judgments every few days. Now let’s flip the switch and say, well, I don’t wanna be targeted for a lawsuit, at least not here on the United States.

I’m gonna set up a Cook Islands trust. What then happens, number one, that plaintiff who brought their fee on their case on a contingency fee has to start their case entirely over in a foreign country where your US attorney can’t practice and you cannot bring it on a contingency fee into Cook Island.

So now all of a sudden, boom, you’ve gotta. Bust out a hundred thousand dollars for bond plus legal fees. That right there was gonna eliminate a lot of lawsuits. Number two, there is no amending a case in a cook island. So if you start the case and later decide to change the reason for the lawsuit, you can’t amend it.

You have to start over neither one that time, there’s a good chance statute of limitations has, has, has, has, has run. It becomes so hard to. Try to get money out of a Cook Islands trust that it is extremely rare anyone does, and when the trust property is set up or has been property set up, it’s never failed to protect somebody’s assets.

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Probably more at this point, right? And growing. How much time and research did it take for you to discover. The Cook Islands as the option, because most of your content talks about Nevus and the Cook Islands, right? So those seem to be the two that you identified are the best. So the three biggest asset protection jurisdictions, cook Islands, nebu, and beliefs.

The in terms of juris, in terms of jurisdictions for setting up an sho, setting up an asset protection trust, you’ve got domestic and offshore. The problem with domestic trust or problem with problem with domestic trust is they can be disregarded by domestic court. Article four, section one of the US Constitution requires full faith and credit be given to the judgments of other states.

So let’s say you set up an bonded trust, but somebody has a court order from California, that trust could be compromised and the case law supports this. If you want better protection, better settlement leverage, you have to look offshore. While there’s more than two dozen different options, there’s only about five or six countries which routinely work with Americans.

Nevus believes Cook Islands Island, Cayman Islands. Bahamas and BVI. Those are the most common ones which work with American citizens. However, of those, only three are actually. Good asset protection countries, cook Islands, Nevis and Belize. Yeah. You hear a lot about the Cayman Islands. Cayman Islands. Until I heard of you, I had never heard of, of Cook Islands or Nevis.

So you hear a lot about Cayman Island. It’s a beautiful place. It’s a very safe place if you have to bank in the Caribbean. That probably be my recommendation though. Generally stay away from Caribbean banks. It is not a particularly asset protection for only jurisdiction. For one, there’s a minimum a six year seizing period before you get any protection.

Yeah. And the general mentality of the judiciary there is they’re apprehensive of being known as an asset protection jurisdiction. If you wanna form a hedge fund, I would probably look to Cayman Island or BVI, but for an asset protection jurisdiction, cook Island’s Nevus, and Belize, Belize, excellent law and place.

However, it is not the most stable place to do business. The regulators there can be a little bit unpredictable. Nevus another great country for asset protection. They don’t have quite the length of history in terms of, uh, how long the law has been around or the case law to support Cook Islands is a very transparent and safe place to do business.

It’s increased distance from the United States over there by New Zealand as opposed to mm-hmm. Here in the. Caribbean decreases the chance that a litigator’s going to want to go there to litigate. Um, and uh, it’s track record reputation are all disincentives for people to try to go up to cook trust.

Cool. Would’ve known that jet lag could help you to protect your, your business. Right? It’s, uh, it’s, it’s distance is a real thing. And bo bodies of water form cultures and countries. Very much so. Yeah. So what’s the hardest part? About, um, the business that you’re operating with, bouncing around, it sounds like you’ve gone through a natural maturation process of, of, uh, a solopreneur to an entrepreneur, to a brand builder, to a corporate CEO, which is like, you know what I mean?

You kind of just gradually start to, to like, you, you’re doing everything right. And then, um, and then you’ve gotten to the point now where, you know, you’re working the podcast circuit and you’re creating content and you’re really becoming the voice and face of the organization. You’re, you’re probably the number one attorney at the organization as well.

Uh, but you’ve had to give up a lot of control too and, and bring people into the equation and trust them. Like, how’s that maturation process worked? So I would say that a big part about it is, um, conviction or faith or belief in. Your product and your business and the demand in your industry and the people you bring on board, the growing of a business is not a steady, uphill, uh, exper experience.

It’s not linear. No, not at all. No, no, no, not at all. It’s rollercoaster. It goes high, it goes low, and when things go high, you have to remember. This is not gonna last forever. And when things slow down, you have to remember this is not gonna last for forever. And you have to believe that the business will succeed in the long run.

Because if you don’t do that, you’re not going to be motivated to put out content to go on podcasts, to continue to build your network, you have to believe in that, and you have to believe in your people. And this is why it’s very important that you select the right people. You want people who are smart and capable and loyal.

And then when you have that though, then you become so empowered that you can focus on doing bigger things, like working out deals with banks and trust companies so that your clients are getting better deals than they could get anywhere else with any, with any of your competitors. You also want to be able to make sure that the team has the same vision that you built the right culture.

Um, so the hardest part. I mean, it, it’s, it’s tough to say what the hardest part is. ’cause there’s, there’s a lot of challenge in the industry. The laws in the different countries changes, the banking regulations, changes the laws here in the United States’ change. There’s a lot of people who love to shit on the industry that don’t know what they’re talking about.

And I have to defend that. Yes, it’s legal to set up an offshore trust. I joke that one of the, um, rumors my family is, is, is what Blake does for work legal. Yes. What Blake does for work is completely legal. Is it ethical? Well, I’ll say this, I do not subscribe to the theory that there’s anything honorable about being weak, about being unprotected.

About being vulnerable. Mm-hmm. No. If you want to be honorable, you make yourself as strong as possible. If you’re going to start a business, the first thing somebody’s gonna say is go register an LLC. Why? To protect yourself from lawsuit. Once you get a little bit more money, maybe buy a house, someone’s gonna say, well, set up a trust so that your kids don’t lose it to due to a divorce law.

Seek your assets, grow from there. Somebody may say, suggest setting up a domestic trust. And once you get to one, $2 million in assets, somebody’s gonna say offshore trust. And all of a sudden people say, oh, whoa. What is this? The problem is the majority of Americans. Not you. Not me, and not the listeners and viewers to your show, but the rest can be very narrow minded.

Mm-hmm. Most Americans have never left the United States. Those who have haven’t, most of ’em have not gone anywhere other than Canada or Mexico. But the individuals who are going to be most successful in the decades to come will look globally to solutions to the problems. If you want to host a dinner party, you’re not going to order everything from here in Chicago.

You’re going to get your pasta from Italy, you’re gonna get your wine from France. You’re going to get various different things from various different kind, these specialty world. Now the best asset protection you’re can look outside the United States. Yeah. So why would, why would family or friends, or, or, or the world even question.

What you’re doing is, is ethical. I, I, I’m, well, it goes, I’m just curious about like, why would they even question that? It, it, it go, goes back to that narrow minor thing of anything outside the United States. Is that even necessary? I mean, for a long time, travel was thought of, if you need to see mountains, if you wanna go skiing, you go to Colorado.

If you want beaches, you go to Florida. United States has everything you need, and America has this very America centric mindset. Um, but that’s, that’s changing as the internet, as social media’s allowing us to connect with the people in other parts of the world. That’s, plane tickets are coming down. More and more people are comfortable with doing things internationally.

And then also there’s the issue with how offshore trusts are portrayed in movies and tv. Yeah. Yeah. And the, in the media, you got the Wolf of Wall Street who’s working with some crooked Yeah. Swiss, Swiss banker. And, um, I guess the real day-to-day kind of boring part of what I do for work doesn’t make good television or, or like the guys from, uh, die Hard.

Right. The, the, the bad guys from diehard, uh, that, that comes to mind as being somebody that would use, use an offshore trust. But I mean, the reality is that I think that every small to midsize business owner who’s put their blood, sweat, and tears into building a family business should consider it. I, right.

I, I think it’s something, yeah. It’s, it’s something should definitely consider. Now I will say probably about two thirds of the people who contact our law firm, we’re not recommending an offshore trust for mm-hmm. Either their assets aren’t there or we have something else that we recommend that they look into.

But for quite a few people who contact our law firm, uh, yes, we’re able to put them in a much better position. To survival loss. So what would it need to be? It would probably need to be, uh, the, the type of company that would have a lot of, a lot of assets and a lot of likelihood of lawsuit. So, well, it’s one, it’s, it’s really one or the other.

Um, the biggest mix misconception in my space is that asset protection, offshore trust, it only makes sense for. Very, very super high net worth individuals and majority of my clients have somewhere between probably about one, one to two and maybe 10 to 20 million. So, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll call it, let’s say two to 20 million in assets is where the majority of my clients are.

Not necessarily this super wealthy, but enough assets to protect. Yeah. We do have quite a few clients whose net worth is a little bit under a million, and we do have a handful of clients whose net worth is significantly above 10 million. But it’s you, most of the people being sued have under $2 million in assets.

Mm-hmm. And if you are worth a hundred million dollars and you get hit with a $5 million judgment, it’s gonna be kind of annoying, but it’s not gonna have any real effect on your stand of living. But if you’re worth $3 million. And there’s a $5 million judgment that could be devastating. Mm. And those are the people who really need the leverage to negotiate and push back and reach a settlement.

And those are the people who really, I think, get the most peace of mind from having their assets protected. So we talk about, uh, the power of three. We talk about like, you know, we had brought up, uh, culture, and I think another thing that, um, you know, is a differentiator for a law firm is like, what type of core values are you operating with and how are you working?

And it would seem to me that one of the things that you’ve, you’ve kind of set in your tone, especially with your content and just here today is, is having the ethics, uh, and the authenticity, um, that that will draw people in. So I’m just curious, like, um, do you have a defined set of core values or a defined set of pillars that you operate, operate by, that you lead with in your marketing, that you lead within your branding?

Um, that, that kind of settles people and gives them peace of mind. I was meeting with a mentor of mine yesterday. He’s an attorney. He’s probably about 15 years older than me. And anything he recommends I do, I will hire him without question. Yeah. And it’s because I trust what he says and it takes a long time to get to that level of trust.

But once you have that, you can own any room, any situation, any conversation that you have. And that’s very much the pinnacle of everything. We, we, we do this, uh, pendant that I wear around myself, it was gifted to me by an assistant of of mine, which he blessed and we call the rock of Integrity. And it’s a reminder to.

Of course obey the law. Um, and I don’t necessarily say obey all the, all, all the rules. There’s times where breaking rules is okay, don’t break laws, but mm-hmm. Breaking rules, but don’t do what doesn’t feel right in your heart. Yeah. And, um, there’s a lot of value in being able to sleep at night, and I’ve seen where other professionals, they may cheat a little bit and it does often probably, I even usually get you ahead for a little while.

Mm-hmm. But in the long run, that’s gonna cost you, it’s gonna cost you your reputation. When people realize that you’re a cheat, it’s also going to cost you your health. And, uh, I don’t wanna be someone who builds this great business and dies when I turn 60. Yeah. I’d like to be able to see the fruits of my labor and see my family.

Grow. Grow for a long period of time. So above all else, integrity. Number two, professionalism and communication. We run a virtual practice, but we also communicate frequently with our team. I encourage FaceTimes and Google meets and a lot of communication within the team. And then third is the enjoyment factor that I want to create a job, not just for myself, but everyone on my team, where they enjoy the experience and customers see that if you are working with a firm where people hate their job, there’s gonna be more turnover and things get lost in turnover.

Mm-hmm. When you’ve got a team that they all really love what they do and they’re committed to, and they’re enjoying watching it grow and they’re being paid appropriately and they’re, and they’re being compensated well, they stay loyal. And loyalty shows and loyalty is something that you want among a law firm that you are trusting to move your money overseas.

Absolutely. You know, uh. I, I guess I’m, I’m curious, as you were talking, I’m just, you brought up the term loyalty and it, it struck me before when you said that is, is there, is there anything that you could recommend in the way of building that loyalty, not only internally, but externally that you feel like you’ve kind of implemented and it, and it’s really worked out well for you?

So I’ve got a couple of thoughts on that. One is very much selection. You, you, you can’t take a psychopath and turn them into someone who’s loyal. Yeah. Um, but it also makes me think about another client of mine who he was about 27 years old and was worth about $20 million. And then one day his dad stopped by my office and I said to him, you and your son have this really great relationship.

He’s doing really well. How did you manage to have such a good relationship with your son? Have such a transparent relationship with your son? And he said. Don’t lie to your son and your son won’t lie to you. Mm. And I said, all right, this is kind of this, this is good. Give loyalty to your team and they’ll give loyalty back to you.

Um, I ask a lot of my team, um, we are a firm that can probably accomplish a lot more than firms several times our size because we cut out all the BS because we empower our team to make decisions on their on, on their own. But if a member of my team needs me for anything, anywhere in the world, any, any time I’m there for them, if there’s ever an issue, they know I’ve got their back.

I give them all the tools, resources they need to do their job well. And, um, with that they’ve seen loyalty from me. And in turn, I feel I have a lot of loyalty from them. Yeah. I, I like the idea of, you know, if you kind of give, if you give them the tools, give ’em the yes, just give ’em the tools to succeed. I do not fear my team going to.

Break off and compete it easily. Mm-hmm. I’m aware it’s possible, but I think it was Steve Jobs or someone said, well, what happens if you train your employees and they leave? Well, what happens if you don’t train your employees and they stay? Yeah. And I very much take the mentality that, um, for as great of an asset protection attorney as I am, if we’ve got 3, 5, 10 asset protection attorneys as great as me, my team just became so far ahead of any other husband and wife, smaller law firm out there.

So, uh, completely different subject. But I, I’m curious, um, how did, how did you go about the process of determining your, your kind of marketing, uh, methodology of how you were going to. Present yourself. Mm-hmm. Um, present your personal brand in order to represent and run parallel with your corporate brand, because one of your posts on TikTok went viral.

Mm-hmm. I mean, it, it hit pretty hard and most of your following, I would imagine came from that post and then has stayed with you. But it was a buildup. If you go back to the beginning of when you started, it was a buildup, and then boom, one hit, and then it’s just kind of continued from there. So I’m just curious, like, was, was that contrived that like, did, was that, was that curated or did you, did you just deliver a message and it hit and then you’re like, okay, based on that message, I’m gonna then continue to do more of this?

So a lot of my best performing videos are videos of me saying things that I’ve already said a thousand times. Yes. So it comes off very smooth, but it’s not something that I just rehearse for that particular video. With that, I have a very. Calm demeanor to me sometimes, and I feel like you have another switch, another gear that could hit pretty hard.

I, I, I mean, I’m, I’m a very high energy person. I, I, I can’t, um, I’ve been told I’m not allowed to drink coffee on days I’m meeting with, with anybody. I can, I can be, I can beat too much energy, but at the same time, I do have a very Buddha Yeah. With, with, with, with some Zen. Some, some, some, some, some Zen. But in terms of building the, building the company brand, building my personal brand, the best thing I’ve done in terms of building a company brand is narrowing down what my firm does.

We are a very niche focused firm to focus exclusively on offshore trust. There’s very few law firms, very few attorneys who focused. Exclusively on offshore trucks. What do they say? Riches and niches. Riches and riches. In, in niches, you are able to become much better in your field if you niche down. If I was trying to also be a divorce attorney in a car accident attorney, yeah, even a probate confusing attorney.

Attorney, I’m not going to develop the level of expertise that have developed by being exclusively focused on offshore asset protection. Also the marketing side of it. If you’re talking about a lot of different things, nobody’s gonna know what you’re talking about. Yeah. If you talk about one thing, Blake’s the offshore trust guy.

He’s the guy, he, he, he, he’s, he’s, and I, I haven’t used this term, uh, publicly yet, but I’m gonna drop it, you know, on the, what’s gold on the pocket? We have an exclusive, it’s, it’s, it’s what I use my, uh, what’s, it’s the name of my wifi at, at home offshore daddy. He’s the offshore daddy. I love it. He’s, he’s the one you might have heard, um, you may have seen on Instagram.

When I have my team together, sometimes I’ll call ourselves the offshore gangsters. Um, and we can do that for a couple of reasons. Number one, uh, we conduct ourselves with the utmost honesty and we, uh, obey every law, uh, that the bar puts down, that the federal, state government puts, puts down. So we’re far from gangsters and natural guard, but also I have my team come and fight Muay Thai with me, and I would.

Guarantee that my team could take on any other asset protection. Yeah. My dad will beat up your dad. Our law firm inside of a ring would beat any other, yeah. Any other asset protection. See, most law firms are just playing softball after work, man. You’re like taking people to the cage. Yeah. You’re cage fighting.

Yep. Yep, yep. Yeah. It’s, it’s, uh, it’s a whole different level. It’s, well, but they, but I hear from my team, like, it’s really nice when you get to punch your boss in the face a couple times before at work. Yeah. Um, on the personal, the problem is your boss hits back. So the, the, the bo the, the boss, the boss does hit, hit, hit back.

That’s that, that’s, that’s it just comes from that tur guys. He’s not like a punching dummy. This is a battle. Okay. Um, and, and with and with, and with that, it, uh, shapes the mind to this idea that we are strong, that we’re going to win, that we’re going to get the client, that we’re going to deliver a better service.

So that’s a, that’s a corporate brand. Being niche on the personal brand. I’ve followed ins, I’ve followed influencers beyond the law, and I really like the style of people who are authentic. Me too. I think, uh, Elon Musk said it best that this idea that being super proper all the time, oh, the secret to success is nonsense.

Real people really like real people. And I’ll make a joke about, um. Various different things on online. I’m more comfort and I’m, and I’m comfortable with it. And overall, um, the feedback from clients is, we like this. Okay, so I’m just gonna be completely blunt because I’ve made two comments about it already.

So I’m gonna make the third. That’s like the rule of comedy, kind of, okay. You go with the, the jacket, right? Here’s what I love about it. You’re an attorney, you come in with this jacket on. It completely just, it set me at ease, like, okay. He’s got some flavor to him. This is gonna be fun. He’s going to be, yes.

He’s an intellectual. Yes. He’s sophisticated. Yes, he’s well-trained. Yes, he’s, but this is also a dude, this is a guy I could talk to. Right. So I think that, that showing up that way on social media, but then being that way in person, that’s another thing that sets me at ease. ’cause it’s like, wait a minute, he’s the same guy I see in the car with the camera on and the guy in the car going, Hey Blake, tell me about offshore.

And you’re like, just answering the question, looking over at the camera and then you show up. That is exactly, ladies and gentlemen, if you are a small to mid-sized business owner, this is the playbook you have. How you show up in person has gotta be how you show up on LinkedIn, Instagram, TikTok. Yes.

Because I don’t wanna know. 2, 2, 2 people. Correct. Oh, and by the way, like I don’t know anything about offshore law. I don’t know anything about asset protection. The idea of it is intimidating to me in itself. So what am I gonna do? I’m gonna go on, I’m gonna look at your social media and I’m gonna see your delivery.

And then I go, well wait a minute. You know what? This seems like a guy that I actually could get a drink with. I could have a, I could have a sandwich with. Oh, he is kind of fun too. Oh, oh, well, he’s pretty damn sophisticated. So now you’re showing the layers of who you are. But it’s, it’s not like, it’s not like contrived that it’s not a persona, it’s, it’s you actually who you are.

That for me is, that’s branding. That’s what it’s all about. Yep. And that’s, and people would much rather connect with that. Um, when I started in the practice of law, I was wearing a student tie every Sure. I didn’t know what I was talking about, but I needed to appear like it. Now that I’ve gotten more comfortable with what I’m saying, I’m more comfortable in how I dress.

Um, I do like to wear a little something that keeps you remembered. Sure. It doesn’t do any good if people forget. It’s kind of important Yeah. To be front of mind. You know, it’s always interesting. Uh, there I’ve had a couple times, in fact, I’ll just tell you, at the golf course that I play at, I’m playing with a guy, he nudges me and he goes, see that guy right there?

I go, oh yeah, okay. And the guy’s got like on jean shorts, right? And he’s got like a t-shirt on. He’s, he’s at a golf course and he’s putting, he goes, he goes, that’s the richest guy at the course. He’s got more money than you’ll ever make. And I thought to myself, that’s fricking cool. Like, I can pick unassuming, I can pick out the richest person at a conference.

’cause they’re the most casualty dressed. Yeah. It’s so they’re just like, Hey, look, this is who I am. Take it or leave it, brother. Yep. Yeah. I love that. Yep. Yep. No need to flex. Correct. Yeah. So, uh, what are next steps for the brand? Like you, you’ve gotten to this point, what, what’s the big vision? Like, do you have A-B-H-A-G?

Um, you’re already international, right? So like, what’s the next big project you’re working on or the next big move you’re making? So, I am speaking with members in several different countries at the government le level, as well as at the trust company level, and trying to come up with a solution where we can get clients onboarded much faster.

Mm. Right now it takes about 30 days to get a trust established. I believe that I can get that down to maybe. Three days on top of that, bank accounts can take about 34 to six weeks to open. I think we can get that time chopped in half. God, that’s kind of scary. Like from point of contact, make the decision and then it’s 30 days, something happens in between that that’s gotta give like cause you to lose some sleep on the onboarding process.

Uh, I mean, yes and simply. I grew up in the internet age and I want results quickly. I, I deliver response quickly to my team and my clients, um, and getting people from some of these other countries that are used to operating a little bit more on island time or a little bit more of that, um, I shouldn’t say this, but lazy European field.

Mm. It’s not a great fit for the American client base, which is 95% of our clients. Yeah. So trying to build out a better system internationally, which gives our clients more confidence, can even streamline pro pricing and have them get their results, get their trust set up a lot quicker. It’s definitely something that I’m making moves to make happen and I’ll have more of an update on that before the end of the year.

Awesome. If we were gonna find you somewhere not working, I. What would you be doing? Well, I’m not always working. I mean, maybe, uh, my mind is always working, but, uh, in the morning I wake up, I walk Miami Beach, I’ll hit the Muay Thai gym for about 45 minutes. I’ll walk back. I am headed to a special place in the Caribbean in a feud days, uh, to one of the countries we just mentioned.

But I’m going with my kids. I’m not gonna say which one. No, but it’s a, uh, love spending time down there and just unplugging and not having anything that’s keeping us busy. Um, other than that, um, I mean, I do travel quite a bit for most of my travel. 90% of it’s for work. But when I’m over in Kuala Lumpur for a, uh, conference, I will maybe bounce over for a couple weeks of some Muay Thai training in Pettet, Thailand.

Um, I, uh, I like good food. I like good wine. I like all the good things in, in life. So, um, I, I’ve got a lot. That I enjoy doing. I’ve got friends in Florida, but I’ve got friends spread, spread out all over the United States, states and all and all, all over the world. And spending time with them, spending time with my kids, spending time with my family.

I very much enjoy doing so, and I share a lot of that, um, on social media as, as well, like don’t post the children. But otherwise, um, most all of my life, I’m very transparent. Yeah. About, yeah. Are you a reader? Um, not, not as much as, uh, most attorneys. Okay. Or, or, or, or, but go ahead. If you were gonna read something like where do you, where do you go?

You go to escape. Do you go to learn? Um, uh. I enjoy books on communication. I enjoy learning more about how to read and communicate with people. Um, I have a spiritual side as well. I’ve read some books, uh, on finding our purpose. I mean, I say that my job is not who I am. Mm-hmm. My, but it’s a reflection of who I am and making sure that I am the right at my soul and is very important for running a good, clean business.

Um, so I’ve, I, I’m a writer. I’ve wrote a book. Don’t let a lawsuit take away everything which check out on am on, on, on Amazon, and don’t let a lawsuit take away everything. Love that. I like it too. It’s, uh, it’s right here on his LinkedIn page. You gotta go to, uh, Blake Harris Law or go to Blake Harris.

Right. And, um, in fact, go to both pages. And, uh, you’ll see his tagline. Don’t let a lawsuit take away everything. You could buy that book on Amazon. So that would be fantastic to support Blake. What is the purpose? Have you discovered that? What, what do you think is the greater purpose? What is for you? For me?

’cause, because I don’t think everyone has the same purpose. No, we all have. No, we’re all here on a mission. We’re, we’re all here on a mission to spread God’s love for all of humanity. Amen. And the way I will do that is by being a role model and how I live my life. And I take my work seriously and I try my best to become as wealthy as possible.

And I do this through empowering my team and providing good service for my clients. But I also do it through taking good care of myself physically and mentally, and being a role model for anyone out there who wants to look to me as a role model, whether we ever meet or not. Um, that’s very much my, I believe my purpose.

Awesome. How does, uh, how does somebody enter into a, uh, relationship with your, your firm? What’s the best way to get ahold of you if they’re curious about this? Um, how can they reach out to you or should they have a different entryway, uh, to speak with somebody else first and then they would, you know, kind of qualify and then get to you?

What’s the best point of entry? So, Blake Harris Law, that’s all you need to remember. Mm-hmm. Blake Harris law.com is our website. I believe it’s probably the single greatest source of information on offshore asset protection on the internet. So Blake Harris law.com. You can call us, you can fill out a contact form or connect through any of our so socials on all the major platforms at Blake Harris Law.

I respond to dms on Instagram and all the, and all and all platforms. Um, so just. Contact us, happy to jump on a jump on a call. Um, it’ll either be me or another member of my team who takes the call, but as a client of ours or as a potential client of ours, I’m more than happy to get on a call. Perfect.

Give us, let’s, let’s wrap this bad boy up with a couple of, of, of nuggets that you could share with us. Number one, what would you, what is the best advice that you’ve been given? So that really depends on the circumstances and stage of life that I was in. Okay. Um, then give us a few, then, then, then, then give, give, give, give a, give, give a few.

Um, you become your friends. That’s definitely a important, and, and you become your friends. You, you become your, that means, uh, take your five closest friends. What they’re making five years from now will probably on average be your salary. Same thing with, um, if they, what time they go to bed or how many hours a week.

Interesting. They work. Um, happiness is a choice. I agree with that, and, uh, and if you want to make the people around you happy, be happier yourself. Hmm. Um, believe in yourself. You are stronger mentally, physically, and spiritually than you realize. Um, patience is a good thing and patience is a bad thing. Um, family is, family is important, but you want to navigate your family appropriately.

Every family could occupy a full hour on the Jerry Springer show. And having healthy and appropriate boundaries is, is important. But, um, I don’t believe that going no contact with a family member is generally the right thing to do. I think the right thing to do is get yourself so strong mentally, physically, and spiritually that you can have a relationship with everyone.

Um, uh. Operate from, operate from a place of love and generosity. It’ll come, it’ll come back to you. Uh, be careful who you trust, but to be more successful, you need to bring it, build a team of people you trust. Um, uh, best advice. You’ve literally just built the core values for a company. Like if somebody was starting a company and they were like, what, what?

We should probably have some principles and some core values. Just play that clip, play that and be like, take that and screen, print a t-shirt and put it on a t-shirt and slap it on your wall. Like those are really, really good principles that an organization could be founded on and have the foundation of.

And I’ll, I’ll, I’ll wrap it up with one more piece of advice. Fear no evil. Amen. Blake Harris. Ladies and gentlemen, it’s been an honor. It’s been a pleasure. This has been a very clean, succinct, and powerful episode. You guys know that I like to talk in circles. Blake doesn’t allow that. He got right to the point, baby.

And you know, I hope that you’ve gotten a lot of value out of this. I know that I have right to the point. Look, if you have a business, you know somebody who has a business, you built up some assets in the two to $20 million range, and you wanna protect them by playing the game. That’s really what it is.

It’s a game of life. It’s a game of business. And if you play a game, you guys know in playing a game that you should play the game to win, which means that you should try and put yourself in a position where you take advantage of every advantage. Blake’s an advantage, he’s an advantage to your business.

Like, what are we doing here? People. So someday, someday when this guy knows what the hell he’s doing and builds a 2 million to $20 million asset portfolio. I know who I’m calling. I’m calling Blake Harris because I gotta tell you, you sir, you got shit done. Congratulations, John. This was a lot of fun.

Thank you for having me. Awesome, pleasure. Dr. Roll, cheers.

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